Kerekes’ Attorneys Oppose Psychiatric Exam

The Citizen's Voice is reporting that attorneys for Joseph Kerekes, who is accused with Harlow Cuadra of killing Bryan Kocis in Dallas Township last year, filed a motion Wednesday opposing a prosecution request that he undergo an independent psychiatric examination.

Prosecutors requested the psychiatric evaluation in an omnibus pretrial motion filed last November, a month after they disclosed their intention to seek the death penalty against Kerekes, 34, of Virginia Beach, Va.

Kerekes’ attorneys argued the request was “premature and inappropriate at this juncture.”

They said Commonwealth v. Sartin, a 2000 case in which an independent psychiatric examination was allowed, “does not give the Commonwealth carte blanche to seek an independent psychiatric evaluation whenever they seek the death penalty.”

Kerekes’ attorneys also filed a brief opposing a prosecution motion seeking to admit the former testimony of Justin Hensley, a prosecution witness who is serving in Iraq.

A second brief submitted by Kerekes’ attorneys on Wednesday said he would be willing to submit to a “reasonable handwriting exemplar” for purposes of “non-testimonial” identification.

Lie... then Hope Someone Believes You?

This all orginally started with accused murder suspects Harlow Cuadra, and Joseph Kerekes making numurous false statements a few months/years ago to the public, police, media, etc...:

Harlow & Joe... Lying They Know
The Questions Kerekes Poses
Joseph Kerekes' Email Alibi Doesn't Add Up
Interview, Surveillance & I'm Not Afraid
And Lie They Did
Harlow Lies to Newswatch 16
Joe lies to the Citizen's Voice
Harlow's Jacket of Mystery
Kerekes' Outburst in Court

... and that's just a really small sample.

Meanwhile... there's still apparently some supporters of Harlow and Joe, that are caught in these same kind of lies as well:

Elm 1,2,3 - Update: Elm also admits to reporting a Lie (comment 2) on his own blog. (Or was it a lie about telling a lie?)

Then we have The Jakester... need I say more.

Here's hoping that the truth will prevail at trial, and I don't think it'll be coming from an Angel.

The House that Sex Built... Get's No Loving.

Virginia Beach has just released their 2008 real estate assessments, and once again the house and land that Harlow Cuadra and Joseph Kerekes lived at on 1028 Stratem Court, has lost value for the third year in a row:

Assessment History:

2006: $571,803.00
2007: $542,683.00
2008: $513,800.00

That's a loss of $58,003.00 in two years.

With the current asking price at $471,900.00 - it appears to be quite a bargain, at least until a few more years... assuming this trend continues. The house was listed for $699,000.00 not too long ago, and was originally purchased by Harlow and Joe on 10/19/2005 for $542,375.00.

It should also be noted that every house within Harlow and Joe's neighboorhood has been losing value since they were built... some as much as $100,000.00 in four years. What's interesting is that it seems to be the values of the land, more than the houses themselves.

Raise Your Hands and Step Away From The Hedgehog

While this post has nothing to do with the Harlow Cuadra and Joseph Kerekes' trial... I just couldn't help but post it for a little comic relief:

According to CNN... a New Zealand man has been accused of assault with a prickly weapon -- a hedgehog.

Police allege that William Singalargh, 27, picked up the hedgehog and threw it at a 15-year-old boy in the North Island east coast town of Whakatane on February 9.

"It hit the victim in the leg, causing a large, red welt and several puncture marks," police Senior Sgt. Bruce Jenkins said Monday. The teen did not need medical treatment, he added.

Police arrested Singalargh shortly after the incident, and charged him with assault with a weapon -- "namely the hedgehog," Jenkins said.

At a hearing in Whakatane District Court on February 14, Singalargh's lawyer said he intended to plead innocent, The Herald on Sunday newspaper reported. The case is due to resume on April 17. If convicted, he faces up to five years in prison, Jenkins said.

"People often get charged with assault for throwing things at other people," Jenkins said, although he admitted the use of a hedgehog as a weapon was "uncommon."

It was unclear if he also would face animal cruelty charges. The Herald said the hedgehog was dead when it was collected as evidence, but did not know if it was dead or alive at the time of the alleged attack.

Comments...

After some careful consideration... I've decided that "comments" should still be permitted on posts labled "useful trial resources", regarding the Harlow Cuadra and Joseph Kerekes trial... as such, comments are once again open for these previous posts/discussions:

Harlow & Joe's Debt
Black's Beach Transcripts
Affidavit of Probable Cause
Criminal Charges Filed
Preliminary Hearing (Day 1)
Preliminary Hearing (Day 2)
2007 Timeline of Events
Evidence Presented Thus Far
Prosecution's Witness List

Comments will likely remain open until the trial of Harlow and Joe is over... if this would make things confusing, or you have a better idea... please let me know.

Round Three: Elm's Theories...

Since it's another "slow news day" for Harlow Cuadra and Joseph Kerekes... why not post some more chat transcripts... and I'll repeat... Google Chat... not email... so I'm not real sure why the email issue ever came up.

To quote a recent comment made on Jim's blog by Elm: "We all have our sources and some of us just know how to keep our mouths shut." - Kind of ironic isn't it?

07/20/07:

11:49 PM me: Hey Elm
11:50 PM eloise: hey whats up?
me: Not much... interesting last couple of days... to say the least.
eloise: true that
11:51 PM It looks like Joe is playing right into the hands of the police.
11:53 PM me: I'm not sure what to make of it to be honest... brb... bathroom break.
eloise: ok
11:54 PM me: I'm back
eloise: ok
me: It surprised me a little to be honest.
eloise: why?
11:55 PM me: I didn't expect anyone in their right-mind to admit being in PA, renting a car, and visiting Kocis house.
eloise: Look a it this way they reaqlly do not have attorneys and they are at the mercy of public deffenders
11:56 PM that is precisely why h did it
he
me: I spoke to Mike at Out about this, this morning... we seemed to be both shaking our heads.
11:57 PM The only 'official' comment I've gotten thus far is from the DA in VA, which stated: " I'm not surprised".
11:58 PM eloise: well it is understandable that he would do somethng like this. he was segragated from all communication and he said it himelf he was in solitary
11:59 PM that is basically what they do to prisoners when they want them to squeal
12:00 AM me: As I told Mike, and perhaps he just didn't get my lingo... "guess the interigators are doing their jobs"
12:01 AM eloise: the police really have no clue as to what is really involved here.
12:03 AM me: I wouldn't be so fast on that one. From the folks that I've talked to, they seem to believe they know quite a bit... and I'd have to agree to be honest.
12:06 AM eloise: They know about the Joe and Harlow angle, I would agree but did Joe and Harlow really do this? Are they just the most likely suspects? The real question is why would they do this? to work with Sean lockhart, That makes no sense to me. if you kill someone to be around me I am heading for the hills.
12:09 AM me: I agree, and respectfully disagree. Does the whole 'plot' make sense... no. Where Harlow and Joe in some serious debt... Yes. Guess that'll be something that's looked at for motive.
12:11 AM I reviewed their credit record, and one car that they
12:12 AM 'previously' owned had a monthly payment of over $900
12:13 AM eloise: yeah but the had assets that could be sold. so that still does not work for me. everyone is in debt. when you say serious debt are you talking about what they owed? as to that I have a friend wohhas 50,000 plus in credit card debt and he is also under the gun for 4 mortgages to a tune of 1.5 million but he has the home that he could sale and all be fine and good so debt is purely subjective
me: When I say previously... that would mean before the arrest.
12:14 AM eloise: they had some high end Cars that is true but the question is were the purchased por leased?
12:15 AM me: They had over 900k in debt, mostly the cars and house. Credit cards came next. There was a Citi card that was owed over $100K.
12:16 AM eloise: I will admit that they had allot of stuff but than again we all have a lot of stuff.
were they maing the payments?
12:17 AM me: The last I looked there were over 7 accounts that where past-due... and this was last month.
12:18 AM eloise: wll that would be understandable dur to the circumstances
me: Some accounts actually showed a past-due balance before the arrest. ( off the record naturally )
12:19 AM eloise: well I can say this I pay bills when I have the money you probalbly do as well so what is so strange about that
12:20 AM me: There's nothing really strange about it... I'm simply stating what was found.
12:21 AM eloise: If you want to base your reason on why they did this based on their credit report you might want to check the credit reports of a few other people as well
me: When the accused make statements about making a million dollars, at the same time that's about what they owe... hmm... makes one wonder.
12:23 AM Elm, my conversation with you is off the record... I'm simply talking to you as a 'friend'... nothing else.
eloise: yeah know but I still say the motive is suspect. they might not e the brghtest bulbs in the lamp but I can pretty much tell you that they would not do this for the chance to work with Sean Lockhart. especially if there was no agreement in place to do so.
yeah I know
12:24 AM do you have clue what a porn movie really makes?
me: I've heard you say that several times... what really makes you thin Joe and Harlow aren't a part of this?
12:25 AM eloise: If you make a 150,000 you did good
me: Depends on who you ask ;)
12:26 AM eloise: I don't think they killed Bryan but I think there is more to this than we all currantly know.
12:27 AM me: Again... nothing to be reported elsewhere... if Harlow and Joe ( who now reports to being at the scene )... who could it be?
12:30 AM eloise: as I have said that Bryan was into some dirty stuff and the people who were involved in this dirty stuff did not want to be to high profile. Bryan was doing just that making it profile. he as a risk to some very high powered and influential people. has it occured to you that Joe and Harlow are probably able to destroy the reputions of some high placced political people? it just goes to figure kill 2 birds with one stone
12:31 AM me: Elm, you know I've never spoken badly about your stinky ass ( ala ******* ), the whole 'high-interest' John's just don't make sense. Where are they today?
12:35 AM eloise: why would you ask me that question? they were escorts you know this. who hires escorts? people who don't want it known that they are 1 Gay,2 Married 3 in a hig power position or 4 all of the above. so it just stands to reason. look at they're location. how far from DC were they and the had their home set up to see their clients.
12:36 AM me: I guess I have a problem with beleiving who was in their client list. Wasn't it Harlow that stated that they 'played' with
12:37 AM Senators, etc... and in the same post boasted about jets and yachts they never had?
12:38 AM eloise: smart people don't own jets or ycts they lease or rent them. the upkeep will break you
me: Smart people know they didn't do either ;)
12:39 AM eloise: this is why you do not see any of joe or Harlow's former John's coming forward to help him they are scared that they will be outed in the press.
12:40 AM so what did you find ot about Barry taylor
12:41 AM me: I would say that it looks like ( from the RICO stuff) ... everyone involved will be made public.
12:42 AM eloise: not if they do not have details asto their client list
12:43 AM me: Nothing more that was already known... this whole story about he was required to leave as their defense is false. I'll be covering some of this tomorrow in my blog.
12:44 AM eloise: ok no details just that it is false?
12:45 AM why would he lie about it
12:46 AM me: You'd have to ask him that question... I'll post the story tomorrow... can't let the cat out of the bag too early ;)
eloise: ok
12:47 AM me: I trust that you wouldn't say anything... I just don't feel like having to type the story twice.
12:49 AM eloise: I trulym sring to loose interest in this whole sordid mess as my last post proves. I don't really even read the news reports anymore. the blogs are all on there own mission of destruction and I just don't think I want to be a part of it anymore.
12:50 AM I will just say this you are innocent until proven guilty and thats al I have to say on that.
me: I agree. Most of the blogs have become nothing more than a fantasy fest.
12:51 AM eloise: or hate spreaders
12:52 AM I read somewhere the reason that the gay community will nevr get anywhere is because f tere petty attitude towards one and other. and I tend to agree with that.
12:54 AM me: I guess it depends upon the definition of hate. If some has a rightfull disagreement, with backup - I personally don't consider it hate... if it's just plain stupidness... then yes... and it's quickly deleted from my blog... which it should from others as well.
eloise: It really is sad that we as a community will let someone like Bryan Destroy the lives of young gay men just so a select few can get they're rocks of by watching these young men risk their lives.
12:56 AM me: I won't disagree with you there... yet it's equally stupid to let the younger crowd think it's okay to kill someone that may be deranged.
1:01 AM eloise: it is in my opinion really quite sad how everyone attacked Brent about leaving cobra. yet they never made a statement about Bryan being killed in such a awful way. Bryan was killed to make a point to those who do not listen and do what they are told to do. that would be all of the models who worked for cobra video if you have noticed very few models have come forward with anything negative to Say about Bryan. His murder was a message to them to shut up. I can almost Gaurantee you that any models who do come forward will start to turn up missing or will be killed under supicioiuus circumstances.
me: Elm, don't forget it's 1:01 AM here ;)
1:02 AM eloise: ok well I have to go any way so I will chat with you later
ciao
1:03 AM me: Okay... didn't mean we had to end the chat... but hope to talk with you again soon.
1:04 AM eloise: ok I have to go and get something to eat and run acouple of errand before the stores close
so we can chat in the next couple of days
1:07 AM me: Enjoy your shopping... hope you're not cutting it too close.
1:08 AM eloise: 24 hour grocery restrant closes at midnight
me: So much for 24 hrs ;)
1:09 AM eloise: yeah great for the nocturnal
1:10 AM me: lol... enjoy your shopping... I'll talk to you tomorrow ( perhaps )... and thanks for wasting some time with me. :)
eloise: no time is wasted if you enjoy yourself
1:11 AM me: As long as it's enjoyed by all... then no waste at all... still a pleasure though.
1:12 AM eloise: cool gotta go later days dude
me: Have a great evening!

An open chat with Elm part deux..

"elmysterio said... PC post it all I really don't give a fuck. You seem to think that you can hurt me with your threats but the fact is you can't. I have all of the same posts and emails that you have. Go for it."

Okay Elm... while I have no interest in hurting you... I will post more... and to think the last one was crazy... there's still more:

Chat on 07/25/07:

me: Elm, we're getting ready to break the 'blessed' news... I'll explain more after the post.
9:12 PM eloise: whaT BLESSED NEWS?
me: as Reene calls it.
eloise: CALLS IT WHAT
9:13 PM me: You'll see... give me a bit... was just giving you a head's up as a friend.
eloise: OK9:17 PM me: I'll let you know when it's posted.
9:18 PM BTW... if there's anything I can help with in regards to the ** stuff... let me know.
9:19 PM eloise: pc you better watch what you post because you will be sued
me: I don't think so.
eloise: so you need to tell me what it is
me: You'll see.
9:21 PM eloise: PC I am serious about this you better watch what you post because attorneys are being called right now
me: That's okay... an attorney told me this.
9:22 PM eloise: then the attorney could be disbarred and you will be servewdf by 5PM tommorow
me: Elm, there's no reason to be like that... you don't even know what I'm going to post.
9:23 PM eloise: pc I am serious Iam not saying this the party involved is me: Well we'll go from there...
9:24 PM eloise: so you will be sued because privledged information can get you slapped with crimnal charges tommorow
9:25 PM me: Again... you don't even know what I'm going to say... no reason to assume.
9:26 PM eloise: PC you need to tell me and I will not post it but I am trying to save your ass
9:27 PM me: hold on...
9:30 PM eloise: pc you will be arreseted and and the attorney who told you will be disbarred
eloise: I'm on the pjhone with renee
me: With all due respect, I can't be arrested, trust me.
9:31 PM eloise: pc she is on the phne with an attorney as we speak
9:32 PM she is not playing and she will have you arrested
me: Elm, she can't... there's no reason to even make that statement.
eloise: you will be arrested I am trying to protect you
9:33 PM then you better post it before the cops get there she is already pissed at you so wy push it
9:34 PM me: Elm, I'm sorry I brought up the conversation.
eloise: don't be sorry just be smart
9:35 PM if you got any information from ***** he will get arrested to
me: I think you know better than that.
9:38 PM eloise: pc they know who you are
9:39 PM me: I don't care... I know who 'they' are too.
9:41 PM eloise: PC you really don't understand this this is big and you be busted
]9:42 PM they are coming to get you and I am not lying
me: Elm, we've chatted a lot, and I've always considered you as a friend. These threats of being 'busted' are unfounded... I've already spoken with an attorney, and I'm not breaking the law in the least. Again... you don't even know what's going to be said... why the attitude?
9:43 PM eloise: if you got proivledge infrmation form an attorney that attorney will be disbarred. me: Let's go ahead and just end this conversation.
9:44 PM eloise: pc just tell me and we can end all of this
9:45 PM PC I realy don't give a rats ass what it is and i will not try nd scoop you9:46 PM there are allot of people who are really pissed right now and you will be loocked up
9:47 PM are you there
9:51 PM pc are you there
9:55 PM pc are you there
9:56 PM me: Yes Elm, I'm still here... please don't threaten me with legal recourse, because there isn't any... have Ree's attorney's state what law I've broken.
9:57 PM eloise: renee's attorney will be on the phone in a minute
9:58 PM this can not be released until a judge signs of on the deal
9:59 PM this is serious did you talk t one of oe and harlows attorney
me: Again Elm, you seem to assume what I know... even though I never told you.
10:00 PM eloise: then tell me and we can put an end to this
me: It's posted.
eloise: I promise I wont pst it you can if it is not what I think it is
10:01 PM you fucked up big time
10:02 PM someone is gooing to get disbarred and you will be an accesory to the fact10:04 PM that was client attorney client privledged information and you will be served by 5PM.
10:05 PM me: Apparently someone told the press... that's how we got it.
10:06 PM eloise: PC its to late for that you told me you got it from an attorney and they will be disbarred
me: Whatever Elm... have a good evening, and hope to chat with you when you're in a better mood.
10:07 PM eloise: I'm in a fine mood I was just trying to protect you but you went and blw it.
10:08 PM me: Elm, as much as you might be upset... I haven't broken any law. I'm simply reporting what was given to me by sources in PA and VA.
10:10 PM eloise: you really should not have done this
10:11 PM me: I apologize if you're upset... but I'm only simply reporting what's being done.
10:12 PM eloise: I know that but you can't do this because it is news you have to wait until it was finallized why would you attempt to damage Joe an Harlow chanct to get ther attorney's paid
10:13 PM It reqal;l makes nop sense to me that you would do this well that little port probably juswt undid it
10:14 PM well that little report just most likely undid it
10:15 PM you don't seem to understand what you have done now the state of virginia will just take the house back
10:16 PM you are really not looking at the big picture here
10:17 PM this was not to be mentioned until a judge signed the order and now that most like;ly won't happen
10:19 PM I guess you just basically signed their death warrant
10:20 PM me: No I didn't... I'm just telling the truth.
eloise: that was to pay the down paynment for there attorney
10:21 PM now they will have to have a public defender so I guess you did me:
Elm... they're home had no value... especially with the second mortgage.
10:22 PM eloise: you don't know that, you have no clue what the value of the house was
10:23 PM you are basing your value on the accesed value not the market value
10:24 PM me: Elm... I live here.
eloise: do you own a home?
me: Yep... bought it 3 years ago.
10:25 PM eloise: I deal with homes eveyday and they are always worth more than the acessed value is it a house or a condo
10:27 PM homes have a different value whewn accessed tha a condo would me: It's a 3700 sq ft house sitting on just shy of an acre.
10:28 PM eloise: and is it in the city proper? or in a outlying area
me: It resides in the City of Norfolk.
10:29 PM I'm in E. Ocean View... just a walk across the street from VB.
10:30 PM eloise: virginia beach has a higher value norfolk would and halows house was in an exclusive neighborhood close to a counrty club
10:31 PM did you buy it from judy boone?
me: Harlow's neighbor's house just sold for 379k... trust me... I keep up with real estate prices too :)
10:33 PM eloise: there have been no sales in birdneck woods in the last 7 months and harlow's mom is in real estate and she keeps track of that area
10:34 PM me: Elm, I'm not going to get in an arguement with you... but the seller has 2 lots left ( out of the 17 ) and is currently listing a house now for $425k... and it hasn't even been built yet.
10:37 PM eloise: those lotas are oddly shape and the houses have to be smaller to fit on the lots. harlow's house was 4572 sqft custom built home
10:38 PM me: Elm, with all due respect... I hope Harlow's mom, as a real estate agent can sell it for as much as she can.
10:40 PM eloise: that is fine and good but you really did jepordize their defense and you could have possibly set the case for several months
me: That
10:41 PM 's certainly not my intention.
eloise: any way does it make you feel good that you could have possibly ruined thre chances to a fair trial.
me: My intention since the begining... ( what May/June? ) is to tell the truth... I think I've done a pretty good job of that.
10:43 PM eloise: yeah you had so far but this was pushing the limits
10:44 PM me: I'm only publishing the information given to me.., I certainly don't make this stuff up like **, and others.
10:47 PM eloise: you do realize that Harlow's blog is written by his girl friend. And she supports Harlow 100% and is helping him raise money for his legal fee's
me: His girl friend?
eloise: yup10:48 PM the real deal
10:49 PM me: Where's the police Elm? I don't hear anyone knocking on my door?
eloise: and she misses his hard loveboneand you ight have ruineder chaces to ride the stiff oneagain
10:50 PM sitr tight she is truly pissed
10:51 PM me: How long has he had this 'girl' friend?
eloise: quite a while from what I undersnd me: Well tell her it's nothing personal... just a media thing.
10:52 PM eloise: do you work for the media?
10:54 PM me: I'm out.